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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2025-06-30 06:32 pm

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Well ... to answer your question, no, they probably don't know gay people as well as they think they do. lol

(Anonymous) 2025-06-30 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
For me, it isn't that someone headcanons "so and so" as a bottom. It's more that generally the more feminine (or nicer) character is always the bottom.

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[personal profile] iff_and_xor 2025-06-30 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Is this a β€œthis character is an exclusive bottom in these stories” thing?

Or is it a β€œthis character must only be written as a bottom because of their appearance and/or personality” thing?
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(Anonymous) 2025-06-30 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
It's kinda interesting to see people always argue about top/bottom dynamics but rarely do you ever get interpretations that have top/bottom/dom/sub as quadrants where someone can be a bottom who switches dom/sub based on how they feel that day, or a sub that switches top/bottom based on what the dom wants, etc.

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(Anonymous) 2025-06-30 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I just roll my eyes at anyone getting worked up over it in either direction, trying to police how people write their fanfic smut is annoying as hell in general. And I'm someone who for the most part doesn't have a preference with who's the top/bottom with my m/m ships but if I see someone trying to tell others what they 'should' be writing, even if it's an 'x-as-bottom' that I like I'll block them on sight. I wish more people would admit that when they prefer one character as the bottom it's because they find it hot, not argue how it's more 'in character' or 'progressive' like what?

And yeah OP a lot of people in fandom talk like they've never spent much if any time around queer men who, not always, but often do have a preference. This doesn't mean they never do anything outside of that preference ever, but most of the time they'll fall into it because it's what they like.

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(Anonymous) 2025-06-30 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Or.. They're just tired of weird heteronormativity that demands the shorter, smaller one is the bottom???

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(Anonymous) 2025-07-01 08:31 am (UTC)(link)
I've come around to understand every individual's kink is personal. I try my best not to yuck anyone's yum, but I do get annoyed when my kink for a character or ship is met with, "Character A isn't a bottom/sub!! You're wrong!" (Or vice versa)
I'm so tired of having a prepared 5 page PowerPoint program to explain my kinks. Mostly because those who demand I defend my preferences don't even want to listen. They just want to talk over me and poke holes into my preferences.
So I won't stop anyone from talking about their preferences but I likely will never talk about my preferences to anyone unless I enter a space where my preferences are the norm.

I just want to know when YKINMKATO stopped being a thing.

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(Anonymous) 2025-07-01 01:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I probably won't even notice a particular author having a preference for a particular top/bottom configuration, although I might notice if they do for dom/sub. But I will definitely notice if they always conflate dom=top and sub=bottom, especially if the characterization warps so the dom/sub stuff is 24/7 and not just about sex.

(Yeah, some rl people do 24/7 D/S, but most characters pretty obviously don't.)

Like, I get that having a canonical perfectly competent adult turn into a weeping helpless waif who not only wants to be stuffed with cock but can't actually function on their own and needs a big strong dom to tell them what to do is a kink that doesn't even need sex, but it squicks me way more than "character A gets off on tying character B up and making them beg to suck A's cock, then they get up the next day and fight crime/the heroes/corporations/intergalactic tentacle monsters together."

Especially when I start reading a fic tagged "A is a dom top and B is a sub bottom" that I assume is about sex, when actually it's about the characters having had personality transplants so now they're both unrecognizable.

(Anonymous) 2025-07-01 01:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with what seems to be the consensus here. If it were JUST about recognizing that sometimes people really prefer exclusively one position/role in their sex lives, it’d be fine. But it’s rarely that. Instead, it’s picking (or forcing) one character to be the submissive, smaller, β€œfeminine” one, often extending that to interactions and characterization in all areas of their life, regardless of what the canon characterization or actual body size differences are, and then often demanding that that is the only β€œcorrect” fanon interpretation. Any single portrayal is not in itself regressive or heteronormative or even just obnoxious, but the PATTERN is.

Personally I prefer my ships to be versatile because I like a little variety in my fantasies. If other people don’t, more power to them, but in my experience across many decades of different slash fandoms, it’s much more common to see fandoms develop β€œofficial” stances on who is The Top and who is The Bottom than it is to see people critique that or offer alternatives.

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(Anonymous) 2025-07-01 06:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd love to read more fics where the bigger, more stereotypically masculine guy bottoms!

Back in the day, there were a handful of stories where Loki outmaneuvered and dominated Thor, and Thor found not being in control and this feeling extremely right to him bewildering as all fuck, but so hot, and they were grand.

(Anonymous) 2025-07-01 07:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I get people having preferences, I get people being enthusiastic about their preferences, I get people having reasons for why they interpret characters as having those preferences ("X is a leader, every day he's under enormous amounts of pressure, so I think he'd love being able to just give himself away for someone else to control and take care of him for a change").

I don't understand, and really dislike, when people who headcanon X as a whimpering sub bottom mock people who see them (okay, HIM, usually) as a top because lmfaoooo they clearly must be y/n girlies wanting him to be their dom daddy, too straight to realize his True Self (or some other "you're just too stupid to realize that I'm right" reason). First of all, psychoanalyzing someone based on their shipping preferences is lame as fuck; second of all, actually I liked to see X as a bottom at first, but seeing how you act about it made me defect to the other team and now I see him as a top 50% because it's hot and 50% out of spite lol.
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IDK how far you are in the game, OP, but you can make or buy much more practical clothing for the MC once you unlock Violet's boutique! I threw the MC in overalls and boots the second I could for the same reason, lol. It's a travesty Violet isn't romanceable.

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I played Disco Elysium when I was newly sober. It was very meaningful to me. I think if I had played it while I was still using it wouldn't have been as impactful

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Nah, I think they just didn't want to be critical of tourism because of their shiny resort in Hawaii.

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this dude was canonically autistic? missed that. he just seemed like a slightly more bitter version of many many smart guys i've met.

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In before transphobia accusations

But yeah lots of trans stuff is an excuse for boypussy and girldick -- things trans people don't even necessarily have -- especially when it's really obviously only there to allow f/f and m/m PIV sex and nothing is even relevant to being trans

Nothing wrong with trans aus, cuntboys, or dickgirls, they're not the same thing tho

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Curious how many FSers are trans or identify as nonbinary.

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Well, our state Senator seems to have emailed everyone in the voting records? Or at least, I got an official email from him. Which says he's proud to be working with Trump, so clearly it wasn't a targeted email. Ew.

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