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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2025-07-01 05:04 pm

[ SECRET POST #6752 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6752 ⌋

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Re: fandom tagging

(Anonymous) 2025-07-02 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
IME, everything that people would want tagged as rape gets called noncon, in fanfics. A lot of stuff that involves (blatant, generally sexual) coercion also gets called noncon. Depending on which value judgment the writer makes, your forced kiss would likely apply. But the only place I've found anyone making those two things separate tags is on the AO3.

None of the fan-writers I know tag for rape as opposed to noncon. And it's only ever the sexual stories that attract this "your terms aren't specific enough!" discourse - we somehow manage to agree that whump is imprecise as all heck without fans insisting we need a separate tag for "assault and battery" in fics.

Re: fandom tagging

(Anonymous) 2025-07-02 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
Whump is a genre, but both rape and noncon is a kink or event, not really comparable. The whump tag usually comes with other tags denoting what happens, which may include noncon or rape or both or neither.

Hurt/comfort is a genre and lots of hurt/comfort involves rape but they are tagged separately for good reason. We don't argue about what hurt/comfort is because we recognize it can be many other things.

Hurt/comfort and whump both do not need to be sexual in nature.