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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2025-05-31 03:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #6721 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6721 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2025-05-31 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)

I mean...plenty of women do like him.

(Anonymous) 2025-05-31 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I know. The fact that he's played by Harrison Ford doesn't hurt, and plenty of women enjoy slightly crappy male characters (as well as crappy men IRL).

(Anonymous) 2025-05-31 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
All right, but saying he's the type of character men think women like makes it seem like women don't actually like it, and that's simply not true.

(Anonymous) 2025-05-31 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't say that, though. It's possible for a character to be a flimsy stereotype, but people still like him/her.

(Anonymous) 2025-06-01 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
But you didn't say that the character is a flimsy stereotype. You said it's a type of man that men think women like.

So...do you think that they're right, or do you think that they're wrong? If you think that they're right, that this is in fact a type of man that women like, then what is even the point of making that statement?

(Anonymous) 2025-06-01 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
I meant that the character feels like it was written by a man who thinks this is what women like. Another nonny nailed it - it's not that Han Solo has no appeal for women, but there's an element of male power fantasy about him. This doesn't mean women won't also enjoy him as a character. The two are not mutually exclusive.

You seem really fixated on the idea of right vs. wrong, and I'm not sure it really applies here. Characterization and writing can be more nuanced than that.



(Anonymous) 2025-06-01 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
But if women do in fact like it, then the man who wrote it was right about it being the type of man that women like, which makes "it feels like it was written by a man who thinks this is what women like" a meaningless statement. There is no reason to say that unless you think it isn't what women actually like.

(Anonymous) 2025-06-01 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
Nah.

(Anonymous) 2025-06-01 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. It's as banal as saying "this painter painted the sky blue because they think other people see the sky as blue."